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Re: WoT 371 Started a Live Video

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:03 am
by DarkZero
oh hey top

Re: WoT 371 Started a Live Video

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:57 am
by I REALLY HATE POKEMON!
mushroom wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:59 pm
I mainly don't like the censorship, and I think early on the editing is a little bit too fast and loose. also I really don't like the prologue they did explaining that Goku is an alien, etc. Like imagine going right into Kai after DB, it's supposed to be a big reveal from the new big villain of unimaginable power and they just spoil it right off the bat with this weird flash-forward. Nitpicks aside it's just paced so much better and I wouldn't even think about watching DBZ ever again when Kai exists.

I don't really have any opinion about Kai's dub because I've never seen it, but god the old DBZ dub was indefensibly awful and I can't imagine the new one being worse.
I'm pretty sure that the censorship was a Nickelodeon thing, but you're right about the continuity being screwed up by that odd Saiyan reveal. Which dub are you talking about, by the way? If it's indefensibly awful I have to hope you're talking about Ocean...

Re: WoT 371 Started a Live Video

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:15 am
by VG_Addict
When I was a kid, Saturday was really the only day I had to myself. I had church on Sunday, and school Monday-Friday. 

Re: WoT 371 Started a Live Video

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:54 am
by mushroom
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:57 am
mushroom wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:59 pm
I mainly don't like the censorship, and I think early on the editing is a little bit too fast and loose. also I really don't like the prologue they did explaining that Goku is an alien, etc. Like imagine going right into Kai after DB, it's supposed to be a big reveal from the new big villain of unimaginable power and they just spoil it right off the bat with this weird flash-forward. Nitpicks aside it's just paced so much better and I wouldn't even think about watching DBZ ever again when Kai exists.

I don't really have any opinion about Kai's dub because I've never seen it, but god the old DBZ dub was indefensibly awful and I can't imagine the new one being worse.
I'm pretty sure that the censorship was a Nickelodeon thing, but you're right about the continuity being screwed up by that odd Saiyan reveal. Which dub are you talking about, by the way? If it's indefensibly awful I have to hope you're talking about Ocean...
Re: Censorship; it isn't just a Nickelodeon thing, but they made their own further edits. But in the original show there's less blood in general. E.g. in DBZ you can see a bloody hole in Raditz's chest, but in Kai you only see a black spot. This is part of the show as it aired in Japan.

Re: dubs; The Ocean dub at least has decent voice acting (but awful writing and censorship), but I'm talking primarily about the Funimation dub that took over mid-Frieza saga. The writing gets only slightly better but the voice acting is incredibly amateurish due to everything being done in-house on the cheap (i.e. without long-time talented voice actors). Not only that but they completely ripped out the original soundtrack in favor of some much worse stuff that never stops playing, like it seems like there was never a silent moment ever in the original dub. Funimation has obviously gotten far better in that department since then but they had pretty humble beginnings, to say the least.

Re: WoT 371 Started a Live Video

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:07 pm
by VG_Addict
I'm not so sure Cave Dwellers holds up that well. Yes, it's often considered the first great episode of the show, but it still feels kind of rough. The riffing is slow compared to later episodes, and I just didn't laugh that much.

Re: WoT 371 Started a Live Video

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:12 pm
by mushroom
whatever else you can say about the episode it has the Miles O' Keeffe joke which instantly elevates it to "great" status

Re: WoT 371 Started a Live Video

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:18 pm
by VG_Addict
I've now seen every episode of Season 8.

Re: WoT 371 Started a Live Video

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:55 am
by I REALLY HATE POKEMON!
mushroom wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:54 am
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:57 am
mushroom wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:59 pm
I mainly don't like the censorship, and I think early on the editing is a little bit too fast and loose. also I really don't like the prologue they did explaining that Goku is an alien, etc. Like imagine going right into Kai after DB, it's supposed to be a big reveal from the new big villain of unimaginable power and they just spoil it right off the bat with this weird flash-forward. Nitpicks aside it's just paced so much better and I wouldn't even think about watching DBZ ever again when Kai exists.

I don't really have any opinion about Kai's dub because I've never seen it, but god the old DBZ dub was indefensibly awful and I can't imagine the new one being worse.
I'm pretty sure that the censorship was a Nickelodeon thing, but you're right about the continuity being screwed up by that odd Saiyan reveal. Which dub are you talking about, by the way? If it's indefensibly awful I have to hope you're talking about Ocean...
Re: Censorship; it isn't just a Nickelodeon thing, but they made their own further edits. But in the original show there's less blood in general. E.g. in DBZ you can see a bloody hole in Raditz's chest, but in Kai you only see a black spot. This is part of the show as it aired in Japan.

Re: dubs; The Ocean dub at least has decent voice acting (but awful writing and censorship), but I'm talking primarily about the Funimation dub that took over mid-Frieza saga. The writing gets only slightly better but the voice acting is incredibly amateurish due to everything being done in-house on the cheap (i.e. without long-time talented voice actors). Not only that but they completely ripped out the original soundtrack in favor of some much worse stuff that never stops playing, like it seems like there was never a silent moment ever in the original dub. Funimation has obviously gotten far better in that department since then but they had pretty humble beginnings, to say the least.
I didn't know those changes existed outside of Nickelodeon, that alone if a deal breaker. I can't stand censorship.

Oh yeah, a lot of the original Funimation dub was pretty sloppy. The uncut redubbed version ("orange brick"?) is a major improvement (not perfect but I find it to be the best). The original Japanese soundtrack was pretty bad though, every other soundtrack it has been replaced with is far superior imo.

Re: WoT 371 Started a Live Video

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:22 am
by VG_Addict
Watching Space Mutiny.

This movie is so cheesy, it'd be funny even without MST3K. John Philip Law is having way too much fun as Kalgan.

Re: WoT 371 Started a Live Video

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:40 am
by Valigarmander
I cooked some fish for dinner tonight, and at the moment I'm suspecting that I didn't cook it as thoroughly as I should've.

Pray for Val.

Re: WoT 371 Started a Live Video

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:02 am
by DarkZero
you'll probably be fine. they can only fit so much disease in those little things

Re: WoT 371 Started a Live Video

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:13 am
by I REALLY HATE POKEMON!
I pray for you to stop eating seafood, it's icky.

Re: WoT 371 Started a Live Video

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:28 am
by Valigarmander
False alarm. I seem to still be living.

Re: WoT 371 Started a Live Video

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:19 am
by VG_Addict
Rewatched Space Mutiny.

I don't think it's overrated anymore. I still don't think it's the best episode of the show, but it's in the top 10.

Re: WoT 371 Started a Live Video

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:03 pm
by monstrman
I would DM a vgf campaign but I'm way too lazy and also no one would play and also I'm way too lazy

Re: WoT 371 Started a Live Video

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:39 pm
by DarkZero
all good reasons

Re: WoT 371 Started a Live Video

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:47 am
by Calamity Panfan
like.... d&d campaign?

i'd be down for a vgf campaign if i wasn't already involved in two campaigns per week.

Re: WoT 371 Started a Live Video

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:26 am
by I REALLY HATE POKEMON!
I'd watch it.

Re: WoT 371 Started a Live Video

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:40 am
by MeowMan
i'd be down for a vgf d&d campaign if i knew how to play d&d and had any patience to learn it

Re: WoT 371 Started a Live Video

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:27 pm
by VG_Addict
Red Zone Cuba is without a doubt, a worse movie than Manos. At least Manos is funny with how bad it is. Red Zone Cuba is just depressing.